Wizards of the Coast D&D Dragon Talk Broadcast Notes

by Hawke Robinson published 2020/10/25 10:13:52 GMT-7, last modified 2022-10-26T02:27:47-07:00
Here are notes from the January 22nd, 2018 interview broadcast at Wizards of the Coast's Dungeons & Dragons, "Dragon Talk" with Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble, interviewing John Welker & Hawke Robinson of RPG Research, Spokane Area Gaming Alliance, & RPG Therapeutics LLC, about role-playing game education, therapy, and more. Currently a work in progress. I am working on it each day in small snippets of time while juggling everything else. I will let folks know when it is ready for sharing.

Here is the recorded video if you missed the show (1:17:12):

 

Transcript for Deaf, HoH, and Visually impaired screen readers (a work in progress): 

http://www2.rpgresearch.com/documents/rpg-research-project/transcripts/rpg-research-on-dragon-talk-20180122-transcript

 

Show Notes:

Show websites:

Hasbro:

Wizards of the Coast

Dungeons & Dragon

Dragon Talk

 

Show Hosts:

Greg Tito:

Shelly Mazzanoble:

 

Guests:

Hawke Robinson

John Welker

 

RPG Research website: http://rpgresearch.com

Definition of role-playing game (RPG): http://www2.rpgresearch.com/documents/wiki/glossary/rpg

Description of Tabletop RPG: http://www2.rpgresearch.com/documents/wiki/glossary/trpg

Description of Live-Action Role-Playing (LARP): http://www2.rpgresearch.com/documents/wiki/glossary/larp

Computer-based RPGs (CRPG): http://www2.rpgresearch.com/documents/wiki/glossary/crpg

Solo Aventure books & modules (SABM): http://www2.rpgresearch.com/documents/wiki/glossary/sabm

Role-playing gamer: http://www2.rpgresearch.com/documents/wiki/glossary/rpger

 

The Wheelchair Friendly RPG Trailer: http://rpgtrailer.com

Hawke's Radio, music, & talk shows:

  • Dr Z & The Synthetic Zen Show on NEKKID Radio:
  • The Synthetic Zen Show on KYRS FM Radio:
  • Tech Talk With Hawke on KYRS RM Radio:
  • Tech Talk With Hawke Blog:
  • Middle-earth Talk Show:
  • The Hawke Talk Show:

 

Dragon Talk D&D News, going on in the D&D world:

  • Unearthed Arcana articcles from Mearls & Crawford, now available on D&D Beyond week later for download. "Beta testing" D&D ideas.
  • Zuggatmoi wedding? artwork:   Michonid....
  • Avalon Hill website
  • Betrayal: Legacy
  • Betrayal at House on the Hill.
  • Betrayal at Baldur's Gate.
  • Organized Play website(s):
  • Joey from Full House:
  • Fuller House
  • Show: Blossom
  • Theater Play: "Don't Split the Party":
  • About a group of 25-30 year old adults that played D&D for a long time, and something happened in a session months ago, and DM tricks everyone to show up at the house, and "we're not leaving until we resolve this past issue."
  • Small black box theater.
  • Theater & Media representation of role-playing gamers.
  • Playwright: "Nathan Kessler Jeffrey".

 

John Welker's organized play site(s):

 

Zombie Orpheus Entertainment (ZOE):

  • Website:
  • youtube:
  • Twitter:

 

Dead Gentlement Productions:

  • Website
  • Youtube
  • Twitter:

 

Did Greg's mother check out the episode? Any questions/comments she has? Did it help?

 

Greg played D&D with his young daughters, ages

 

Example adventures of little children & RPG adventures, Michael Tresca articles:

 

RPG Research LARP program for 2.5 to 5+ year old toddlers, general population and autism spectrum.

 

See Stuart Brown's book on the biological necessity of play in his book, "Play, how it .... "

 

More D&D News:

  • Dragon Plus: ..... Talking to Duck Davison (sp?) of Fantasy Grounds.
  • Interview of artist of most recent cover of Dragon Plus.
  • D&D news:
  • Dice, Camera Action:
  • Girls, Guts, Glory: 
  • Moira:
  • D&D Risen:
  • Furies Fate:
  • Encounter Role-play:
  • Will Jones. Teaching how to Dungeon Master.

 

Get Smart, Cone of Silence. Maxwell Smart.

 

RPG Research is non-profit 501(c)3 charitable, 100% volunteer run organization.

  • Pure research focus part of the website:
  • Community programs:

 

RPG Therapeutics LLC

  • Website:
  • Professional services:
  • Professional training services:
  • Professional certification:

 

 

Citation: Paper in 2006/08 on number of studies .... (Kesler?):

 

Correlation versus causality. Definition links:

 

Correlative claims made about RPGs and/or RPG players, "gamers", the list:

  • RPG / D&D will...
  • ....
  • ....
  • ....
  • ...
  • ...
  • ...
  • ...
  • ...
  • ...
  • ..

 

Citation of study on analysis of media mentions of RPGs, and rates of neutral, positive, negative:

 

Claims of RPGs / D&D cause/increasing risk of suicide, or that gamers  in general more likely to commit suicide:

  • Citations: BADD link:
  • Dr. Tomas Radecki link:
  • Patricia Pulling link:
  • 60 Minutes video link:
  • CBC video link:
  • Newsweek link:
  • other citations?

 

Citations about much lower lower suicide correlations for gamers than general population:

  • Using detractors own numbers:
  • Other studies:
  • Examples of those using RPGs in treatment of depression and suicidal depression:
  • Pychiatrist(s):
  • Psychologist(s):
  • Others:

 

Learned Helplessness definition link:

 

Meaninglessness definition link:

 

 

Play Therapy.

  • Technique/style
  • Differentiation from Recreation Therapy
  • Play therapy more passive observer
  • Children express through their play rather than words with adults
  • Recreation therapy more directly involved with client.
  • llay therapy for pre-verbal stages developmental stages/functioning

 

Hawke & John's registration numbers as Washington State Department of Health Recreational Therapist:

  • Hawke's Registration number:
  • John's Registration number:

 

 

Egan, Ghost Busters II, experiment clip:

 

Study on meaningless & RPG gamers:

 

College students the most highly researched population (disproportionately so, and this causes problems with the results of research not taking into account the rest of the population that does not have college background).

Research on criminality of RPGers:

 

 

Research on violence tendencies and personality types of RPGers:

 

 

Research on Trait-based hostility responses to video game violence:

 

 

Type A Personality definition link:

Type B Personality definition link:

 

Research on RPGers & The occult/Satanism:

 

Causal research definition link:

Controlled edxperiments definition link:

Survey experiments definition link:

Controlled variables research definition link:

Control groups definition link:

Placebos definition link:

etc.

 

John's introduction to D&D / RPGs. His grandmother. White box set. John was 10 years old, 1977.

  • D&D White box set:
  • Mostly GM since then.
  • RPGA
  • Living Greyhawke
  • Wotc Delegate
  • GenCon Open D&D Judge
  • Local area coordinator for D&D Adenturere's League in Spokane area.
  • Personality of John: Prefers to have the whole story and tell the story.
  • John player a High Elf Bard in Heroes of Mist upcoming show, http://mistheroes.com

 

Hawke's initial experiences with RPG, D&D.

  • 1983 - 8 page essay, RPGs, the Myths & reality.
  • The Anti-gaming m
  • ovement part of the Satanic Panic / Moral Panic of the 1980s :
  • Realms of Inquiry: A school for gifted & talented children:
  • response to Shelly's question:
  • research on Gifted CHildren & RPGs:
  • Hawke's computer science / tech background:
  • Hawke's theater background, IMDB link:
  • Hawke's Automotive background/resume:
  • Hawke's computer training schools, old snapshot from archive.org
  • Hawke's philosophy to tech instruction at the time, now fits in line with current neuroscience on learning:
  • Hawke uses video games to help with typing, computer classes, general classes, ADHD kids, token economy, positive reinforcement for grades, coputer parts, etc.
  • Hawke is student at Eastern Washington University working  part time on interdisciplinary degree in: Recreation Therapy, Music, Neuroscience, & Research Psychology.

 

Quotations on needing more cooperative activities in TR, in textbooks and articles:

 

Kids need to cooperate not compete citation link:

 

Wheelchair basketball photos & links:

Uno cards for TBi links.

 

ATRA definition of Tr.

 

Measurabled, achievable goals.

 

Biopsychosocial holistic approach to TR:

 

Intrinsic motivation:

 

Extrinsic motication:

 

My explanation of TR: "quot....." video: ....

 

Drum circle workshop links & photos:

 

TR certification:

NCTRC

CTRS:

ATRA:

 

AMTA certification:

BC-MT:

 

Origin stories of TR & MT

 

 

Intervention modality...

 

 

ZOE video clip on flow state.

 

Mihalyi Cziksemtmihalyi on Flow:

 

 

Hawke's short video clip explaning about Flow state, embeded here:

 

 

 

 

Malow's Hierarchy of Needs pyramid, and link to explanation:

 

 

Enjoyment factor, hard work is now hard fun, more likely to stick to.

More positive attitude means not only better outlook due to sticking to it, but jest negative attitudes versus positive attiudes impact healing, chemically:

Citation:

 

 

TBI = Traumatic Brain Injury

 

Speech Therapy:

 

 

Discharge Transition planning, a key part of Tr training.

 

TR has big advantage of being trained for groups, most professional are single person traifning.

 

Ranchso Los amigos tage Ii definition:

 

Newer/other coma coherence stages:

 

Example program plan for TBI using RPGs from Hawke:

PDF by Hawke:

Program plan by RPG Research:

Video presentation on the above, embed video here:

 

 

 

 

Neuroplasticity definition link:

 

Organic brain damage definition link:

 

 

Physical Therapy definition link:

 

 

Music Therapy definition link:

 

 

Program, with videos, using singing portion of brain to regain speech:

  • Article
  • Video clip embedded here:

 

 

 

TR RPG Transition / Exit plan examples:

Navos in-patient to out-patient youth drug rehab TR & RPG transition plan

Saint luke's TBI & SCI exit transition plan and RPG examples:

 

 

RPGs and Drug rehab & gang culture, new gaming peer group.

 

 

Navos Mental Health website link:

 

 

RPGs for treating Social phobias, etc:

  • Social phobia definition:
  • Agoraphobia definition:
  • Panic attack definition:
  • Blog entries on rpg research talking about this.

 

 

Phobia exposure techniques: Flooding, and incremental:

  • Exposure therapy definition:
  • Incremental:
  • Flooding approach:

 

 

 

John Welker's Uncle's games:

 

 

Research on experiences of Gender bias in the gaming Industry & COmmunity (since 2013):

  • IRB = Instituational Review Board. Definition link:
  • WSU IRB Info for the above study included in that stuidy's link.
  • Quantiative research definition link:
  • Quaalitative research definition link:
  • Changes over time in the above research. Pre-and-post Gamergate, and any progress made?
  • Push back, refusal to participate that was NOT there before gamergate. Much higher after.
  • More awareness of the issue, but not yeet seeing schange show up in data yet.

 

Optimizing the gaming experience in general. Extensive research by Hawke being uploaded to massive document here:

 

 

RPGs for Deaf / ASL groups.

  • Flyer
  • Program explanation
  • Program additional information

 

Vision impairment and RPGs.

 

 

ASL sign for CRIT???

 

PNWATRA:

Website link:

RPg Research blog entries links:

Audio/video/slideshow from Hawke at PNWTRA;

 

Professor Datillo bio link at Penn State:

 

Datillo's work on exploration and learning:

 

Hawke's essay on Cognitive Neursoscience of learning and RPGs:

 

Elaboration Cogneuro definition:

Distinctiveness Cogneuro definitio:

 

All 5 (6) senses:

 

Aphantasia definition:

 

Hawke writing chapter in the next edition of the book:  Current version of the book:

 

The only other book on this topic from another author:

 

Professor messine at EWU change to Dattilo book when it is in there:

 

 

RPG Research 100% non-profit volunteer, 501(c)3 chartiable organization.

 

RPG Research volunteers page:

 

RPG Research volunteer sign up form:

 

Danielle Whitworth's profile on RPG Research:

 

Wheelchair Friendly RPG Trailer: website.

 

Photos of RPG Trailer with Greg & Shelly & Hawke & John:

 

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...

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SpoCon:

 

RPG Research at SpoCon:

 

 

 

Fan Nexus:

RPG Research at FanNexus:

 

 

 

Spark Central:

 

RPG Research at Spark Central

 

 

 

RPG Therapeutics LLC: Formal training & certification.

 

RPG Education.com by RPG Therapeutics LLC: http://rpgedu.com

 

 

Students in Montreal, CA,  U.K.

Ph.D. professional psychiatrists taking our programs to add to their toolset.

 

Autism spectrum & RPG.

 

 

How do people with ASD find out aobut RPG?

 

 

Program plan for ASD & neurologically normal toddlers, LARP 2.5 to 5 years old.

Photos:

 

 

 

Hawke started his 3 boys on RPGs at 4,6,8 years old.

 

ASD 8-30+ years old.

Z-Day program photos & links:

 

 

1940s ASD & others, skills dev program photos & links:

 

Tacoma, Seattle, & Other city's Zombie Walks:

 

 

 

The social skills development built into the RPG experience:

research links...

 

 

Strong facial/mood, body language, voice, recognition of other's moods for mind blindness for ASD & similar.

 

 

Player Archetypes.

 

Certified Player ARchetyp.

 

 

GM Archetypes

 

 

Wheelchair Friendly RPG Trailer:

 

 

 

RPG Bus:

 

RPG Trailer current version ifs prototype.

 

 

Fundraiser for ideal version: http://gofundme.com/rpgtrailer

 

 

See list  reasons and FAQs about RPg Trailer: http://.....

 

 

Pros & Cons of current Prototype RPG Trailer.

 

Benefits of the Ideal RPg Trailer:

 

 

Facilitaties limitations & benefits.

 

Rural services, for undersereved & un-served areas.

 

We would lvoe to be asked to speak at GenCon

 

We would love to be asked to speak at PAX.

 

 

RPG Research as Accessibility Advocates for SpoCon:

 

 

Access for All Spokane:

 

 

John's contact information:

Facebook Page: SAGA:

D&D AL Spokane:

john@rpgresearch.com

John's profile on RPG Research

 

RPG Research Youtube:

 

Mist Hersoes:

Realtime artist

Interactive audience, XP acquire & spend

Jet City improv from Seattle

 

 

RPG Research

Volunteer Sign up.

Background check requirements.

 

 

 

Greg's reference to Tindr: ....

 

RPG Therapeutics LLC:

RPG Education:

RPGTrailer:

RPG Bus:

RPG Network.net:

Gofundme.com/rpgtrailer

Patreon for RPG Research for research & community programms: patreon.com/rpgresearch

Twitter:

G+:

ello.co:

Pinterest:

Instagram:

Linkedin:

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NWN Aurora Toolset, NWN Enhanced Edition coming release:

 

NWN powerful use for RPG Research:

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Dungeons & dragons.com website:

 

Dragontalk website:

D&D Twitch site: http://twitch.tv/dnd

D&D Youtube channel:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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:Morning @stabbyroguegames :)
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:Welcome @stabbyroguegames !
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:PAt Roberts for president... of the Abyssal Plane!
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:good evening all
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:Heya @Cybearian :)
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:Hi there @cybearian
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:Hey there @stabbyroguegames & @Cybearian !
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:Some quit a game by uninstalling it, some throw their keyboard through their monitor SeemsGood
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:Hi @Cybearian !
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:Devil worship... dndBlametito dndBlametito dndBlametito
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:Hey all newcomers and long time viewers ! :)
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:I live in the Bible Belt, and I have friends whose parents refused to let them read Harry Potter... :(
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:Hi @Cybearian !
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:Devil worship... dndBlametito dndBlametito dndBlametito
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:Hey all newcomers and long time viewers ! :)
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:I live in the Bible Belt, and I have friends whose parents refused to let them read Harry Potter... :(
Cojoha
:HAIL GYGAX
d00kies
:what mudbloods Kappa
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DatFreakyDerp
:Harry Potter is on the banned list for books, so is James and the Giant Peach.
sumbuh_aertinz
:Religious intolerance.com has a appologeticly written debunking of all the crazy stuff that people were saying in the 80's and stuff it even shows what kind of crazy stuff these people were saying not relating to RPG's and its very revealing about how crazy those people were in those days.
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:RIP EGG
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:Oh best Grandma
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:@RonTheRBDM women are still stoned to death in some countries too. I guess people have to decide what we're working towards.
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:I hope that makes sense
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:I just stumbled across a vid on Youtube this afternoon that implied that Magic Cards are full of evil symbols...surprised to find people that still feel this way...unfortunate
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:THen I was the Spokane rep after John and then they canned the position all together :(
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Delrok
:Right, evil is an action not a symbol.
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:I fanything
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Gigsnz
:Eh, Rock Music, RPGs, Video Games... Surprised What's the next project Satan has? ;)
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:@DMJazzyHands@dclasair@Gigsnz@OboeCrazy@dnd rgtHi
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      :@Gigsnz who's keeping score Kappa
sumbuh_aertinz
:Yeah that's what I'm saying people that say things like the cards are the devil also say things like watching your laundry in the wash machine will make you a sinner. Its nuts once you look at it.
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:gkjnbdikbddd
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:dndBehLeft dndBehCenter dndBehRight dndBeholder dndAmp
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:Sorry folks, a little devil ran across my keyboard.
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:@d00kies Only the chuches lol
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:@TheVitruvianMan Darn imps!
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The_Dawnseeker
:attributing all that to satan makes satan sounds like an awesome dude
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Gigsnz
:@The_Dawnseeker Yeah that's the rub lol
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:the forbidden fruit PogChamp
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:which self report measures best capture the benefits of RPG on mental health/social interactions?
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:12 GA wand....
Cojoha
:back in '92 i first started playing D&D, but i had to keep it secret bcuz my parents were afraid that it was the devil
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:I have a conspiracy theory that the media made that push in the 80's because if your with your friends playing games your not watching TV
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Gigsnz
:TBH if I end up in hell I get to keep DMing and listening to alice cooper.. Not much different to now lol.. I suspect the RPG circle of hell is either having enough DMs but you can never successfully schedule a game, or enough players and no one willing to DM ;)
DawnLeeQC
:I hear ya @Cojoha I started around the same time and my dad freaked out and called my mom telling her i was gonna become a drug addict
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:@DawnLeeQC lol There's the joke really, gamers don't have the cash to get into drinking and drugs... Always more products to buy :D
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:yeah there was no talking any sense into them about it @DawnLeeQC
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:This coming from a man who loved star trek and Dr. Who

 

 

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Gigsnz
:TBH if I end up in hell I get to keep DMing and listening to alice cooper.. Not much different to now lol.. I suspect the RPG circle of hell is either having enough DMs but you can never successfully schedule a game, or enough players and no one willing to DM ;)
DawnLeeQC
:I hear ya @Cojoha I started around the same time and my dad freaked out and called my mom telling her i was gonna become a drug addict
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:@DawnLeeQC lol There's the joke really, gamers don't have the cash to get into drinking and drugs... Always more products to buy :D
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:yeah there was no talking any sense into them about it @DawnLeeQC
DawnLeeQC
:This coming from a man who loved star trek and Dr. Who
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:I had a very supportive family and friends... we played D&D, Marvel Super Heroes, Top Secret, and Star Frontiers when I was in middle school and high school.
sumbuh_aertinz
:That hell thing is a whole different discussion, hell in the bible is literally separation from God and not the firey pit some guy wrote a book about back in the day.
TheVitruvianMan
:That's pretty brilliant.
DawnLeeQC
:My mom was more cheesed about hem oney i was spending LMAO
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stabbyroguegames
:Oooh Neuroscience O_o goes to website immediately
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:*the money
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:Speaking of website: Find out more about RPG Research: http://rpgresearch.com
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Cybearian
:*bookmarked*
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MtnMama1
:As a player from almost Day 1 of D&D I've seen all the crazy theories about gamers. I weathered it and am happy to see the resurgence of gaming. Still DMing, including streaming, in spite of being a female and *ahem* over the hill.
DawnLeeQC
:This interview is perfectly timed...I just started a course on vampires and wizards as symbols in society...their research is going to be a great resource!
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:Dungeon Master in the "B" room....keep it PG Tito dndBlametito dndBlametito
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dclasair
:When life gives you lemons, you run them through a dungeon. See how they like facing an ancient red dragon.
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Gigsnz
:@MtnMama1 pfft never over the hill, take no prisoners :D
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:lol
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:Absolutely!!!
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Gigsnz
:@dclasair Then somehow watch a bunch of lemions win, and enquire why they're 15 xp short of levelling after *killing a dragon! aww come on!* ;)
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archie_opteryx
:this is a heckuva interesting interview!
DawnLeeQC
:much more interesting than the law book i was reading
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noobi_wan
:I grew up in the south and played D&D during the Satanic Panic of the 80's. I remember sermons at church about the evil of D&D and how it was gateway to Satanic worship. Parents however were more understanding.
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Cybearian
:im 33, known about DND for 20 odd years, never played. got into Critical Role, got my brother into CR and now we've recently formed a roleplay group in the back room of our local pub. wish I'd got into it at school.
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:Yeah these are such fascinating people and they are really amazing communicators. <3
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:If I want to measure outcomes of D&D, what self-report measures capture mental health/social skills?
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:That's awesome, @Cybearian !
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:@Cybearian Ohhh games at a pub, that sounds amazing!
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Gigsnz
:As an 80s kid my mum only really freaked out about the odd computer game, happily drove me to other adults places where i'd spend the weekend playing D&D.. great times.
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    :Man, you folks don't give enough heads up about these things.
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      :Waffle Crew could learn a bit more about being OPTIMAL
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:its pretty good, really works for the tavern scenes, you can actually taste the ale lol

 

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:LOL!
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:I joined a group of people who play at one of the local bars near downtown Atlanta. SO much fun. I'm currently a level 3 Monk (Open Palm).
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:@Cybearian I see that also becoming a more and more related start to recent players.. Helps 5e makes it really easy to get into as well.
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:Hahaha, well played Cybearian
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:I credit my involvement with RPG in general with having the youthful outlook at my age. You have to really be creative and use your whole brain.
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:I’m 28 and new to D&D too! It’s pretty awesome and just starting to form up a regular group. I wish I had gotten into this back in high school.
HybridDom
:people will eat before the game starts, buy drinks during the breaks
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:@BarbaricKitten glad to hear it! What kind of character you running?
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:@OboeCrazy Could you check the mod filters? I tried to post a message about an autistic organization...
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:Fascinating stuff!
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:@RonTheRBDM What's the name of the Org? I can look up the URL
d00kies
:Lots of people on my artis Discord servers are autistic, much more than other servers 🤔 I'm not being sarcastic
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:@OboeCrazy musicforautism dot com
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:Hey there DougieJ
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The_Dawnseeker
:saw a fascinating doc about d&d in prison
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:sorry dot org!
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:dndMurderBot dndXL dndDinoVomit @DougieJ
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The_Dawnseeker
:about ppl who play it in prison, I wasn't in prison when I saw it :P
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:I'm freaking out! Thank you @dnd for having these guys on. There's a charity here in the UK that helps people with all levels of physical disabilities get back into gaming. And I've just shared that with RPG research. I'm so glad you've got these guys!
Slit_518
:What have I missed so far? I assume this tarted 50 or so minutes ago?
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:@RonTheRBDMhttp://www.musicforautism.org/ ? I'll check them out later, they sound interesting!
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:Neverwinter Nights is being updated too. It'll be on Steam.
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:@SpaceJunkz We're glad they were able to make it today! They do great work and are thrilled that you are passing their research along!
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:@Slit_518 Yes it started about 50 minutes ago, but the interview started about 40ish
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:The whole thing will be up on the VoD, and out for the podcast
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:And it's been a great interview
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:I wish I didn't have to leave in 5 minutes
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:@OboeCrazy That's it! My sister is too far away to take my niece to the concerts, but I love what they are doing with their autistic friendly concerts.
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:I just want a quick rundown, if you could.
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:Like was it just these groups here talking about what they do?
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:One of your best dragon talks @dnd :)
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:@Slit_518 Find out more about RPG Research: http://rpgresearch.com
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:My 10 year old son is autistic, I DM'd a game for him and his younger brother & sister, they loved it and now want a campaign. I'm thinking of using the starter set but thats the campaign we are running at the pub so I cant read the full campaign
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:As a future music therapist wannabe, your rpg therapy is facinating
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Gigsnz
:My Adventure league player logsheets would say otherwise about people liking paperwork lol
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darth_farter
:vital factor: inclusiveness
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:players*
DawnLeeQC
:Cineplex does movies that are geared to a positive experience for the autistic
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:@Slit_518 The multitude of ways they use RPGs to help those with mental, physical, and emotional issues
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:That sounds wonderful.
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:@Slit_518 They are! <3
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:The power of RPGs and gaming in general.
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:@Slit_518 TL;DR Hawke has been discussing how he uses RPG games to assist all kinds of people, whether they come out of a coma with some brain damage, or are autistic, or have physical limitations, etc. It's really really great, so I would encourage you to go back and catch the whole thing later!

 

 

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:@Cybearian Pick up storm kings thunder, or out of the abyss.. Either runs well as a campaign and are the better ones.. (Curse of strahd is awesome as well but the other 2 I think would play great for kids)
Slit_518
:Don't ban women -_-
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:cheers @Gigsnz
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Cybearian
:urgh, gamergate
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:What is gamergate?
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:Should I google it?
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:no
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:Let's not get into that here, please folks
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:I'm so lucky my D&D club is so cool. But I have had a guy straight up ignore me in lightsaber combat classes and talk to the men instead
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:@dnd agreed!
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:@Slit_518 Just know it's a lot of negativity.
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:@dnd indeed
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:I taught Taekwondo, and I know the women are just as kick ass as the men, and some even more so.
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    :@SpaceJunkz Could always just whack them in the head with the sabre :)

 

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      :@SpaceJunkz Could always just whack them in the head with the sabre :)
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:@Gigsnz I will if he does it again ;)
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:I know a little ASL as well.
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The_Dawnseeker
:my only local gaming spaces are both far too noisy for a good game of d&d :(
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:I know a small amount of French, a bit of ASL, and am working on Japanese.
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Gigsnz
:@The_Dawnseeker See if they have a day that isn't as busy like a sunday or something and game then?
DawnLeeQC
:any language learned is always a great thing
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:@The_Dawnseeker come over to Oxford in the UK and I'll hook you up! :P
Slit_518
:I feel FLGS that want to have card tournaments and tabletop games, they should have a separate room or two for that stuff.
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:I know it's not possible all the time, with the space they own/rent, but if they can pull it off, they should do it!
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The_Dawnseeker
:stuck down in Plymouth atm :P
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:I just got here ready for Lore You Should Know with Chris Perkins! :D Excited!
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:@The_Dawnseeker Or look into Roll20 or Fantasy Grounds for online stuff. Or time to make room in the living room!
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:@Slit_518 ours does, but it's still too noisey on the nights I DM.. mainly because its popular as hell now and we run 2 larger tables :/
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:@The_Dawnseeker I'm super happy you're so nearby though :P compared to the US anyway
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:(no room for a 3rd table either)
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MikeMN2KGod
:I wonder when the Blood Hunter class will become legal in 5e adventurer's league (AL)? I really want to officially play it in my D&D 5e AL group.
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:@Pundawan Welcome! LYSK is coming soon, but right now Find out more about RPG Research: http://rpgresearch.com
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:aye working up the nerve to play online
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Cybearian
:I think i could listen to this guy talking about this all night
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:I like good talkers.
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:It's his Charisma!
greencatmeows
:neat show! Thank you!
Ayzukio
:One of my coworkers had that. Unable to visualize anything. He found out he was the only one in the office who had it.
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:@MikeMN2KGod If it ever makes it into a printed book then it's got a good shot.. Or if they ever have a DMsGuild as a +1.. which I don't think will happen for a while.
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:i didn't even know recreation therapist was a thing <3
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MtnMama1
:Interesting comment! In one of my groups I have a player who gets very upset at descriptions, wants just to battle. Maybe I need to bring in more senses. He might have that problem.
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:DMs' Guild as a +1 is iffy.
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SpaceJunkz
:they don't tell you that stuff when you do your degree in psychology, apparently XD
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:Because anyone can put up anything.
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:Nat 20 on his Charisma roll. Lol
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Gigsnz
:@MtnMama1 Some players also just like combat only... get bored and annoyed by the rest..
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:@Slit_518 That isn't the biggest issue really, the biggest one would be the time for the admins to vet the content there too.. Sure they could treat it like CCC creation but I don't see it really happening
gamerseuss
:I got a TPK last night
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:They should come to Genericon in Troy NY this March! There are certainly people there that would love to DM a game that meets their needs.
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:He is more than that. Got very upset and apparently confused by a description of where doors were, etc. There were only visual clues in my description. I'll try inserting more senses.
zeppelin7777
:@gamerseuss Oh no BibleThump
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:@gamerseuss Ouch, sorry to hear! Do you already have a new character in mind?
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:Evil? No thank you. :D
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:@Gigsnz I got you, but there would be so much to go thru.
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:@MtnMama1 Ahh makes sense then!
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:@MtnMama1 are you using maps or no?
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:@gamerseuss Opportunity to roll new characters!
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:I crossover. I do mostly TotM, but I do use some visuals.
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:@dnd what was that UK thing then?
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:My problem in creating content for the DMs' Guild, I am all by myself.
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:there's a guy in the UK learning from them and who wants to represent them here
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:You'd have to watch my stream to see the odd form I use. My stream group, though, is an awesome group. Great RP
gamerseuss
:I was DMing and yes already have new characters
Ralthan
:My six year old is on the spectrum. I've started introducing him to a "Kid Friendly" version of 5e. he loves it.
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:Totm means theater of the mind, btw.
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:@Slit_518 Exactly, I'd hope as an AL DM it never happens.. but I know my place lol
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:I am working on addicting my grandkids :D
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:@MtnMama1 does the player respond better to maps?
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:@Ralthan I have a kid friendly/beginner friendly module that I have made, but right now it is in the hands of a company for review, so as it stands, I am not sure if it is to be published or not yet.
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:No. But I don't use many MAPS per se. I use images, like images of the outside of the house, etc., and rely heavily on mental, verbal images.
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:@Cybearian You in the UK too then?
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:@Slit_518 As for being alone in creating content, if you're creating AL content, join the CCC creators group on facebook maybe? I'm in there for when I get around to start creating content.. as a con organizer always happy to run content as well :)
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:Personally, I think it would be a great addition because it is easier for newer players and kids.
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Cybearian
:aye, N Yorks
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:@Slit_518 very cool!
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:@Gigsnz I had an email session with Bill last week, I sent him some samples.Should I still join the group anyway?
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:I play these days on R20, so it's not a "physical" environment, which may be paert of the problem.
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:@MtnMama1 basic maps might help them out a bit if they struggle imagine a space
gamerseuss
:I do introduction to Roleplaying and RPG collage sessions locally @ stores libraries and Cons
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:@Slit_518 Why not? Always good to grow your community connections right? :)
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:Yeah if it's confusing, like the dungeon of Death House I go to maps.
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:@Gigsnz Yes, that is what I've been doing these past several months.
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:i personally find maps helpful if we need to work with details in a space
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:@Slit_518 Name of the group is "unofficial AL CCC designers Group" iirc
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:Oh, it's unofficial. Is there an official one?
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:It's pretty much the official one lol
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:@Cybearian awesome :) I'm in Oxfordshire. My Dad's from Halifax though ;)
Randoramma
:C Day Puyallup... everyone dies.. LOL
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:geeksntwerps
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:Yes, I was in a Zombie Walk charity event for Target.
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:When does LYSK start?
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:Oh, wait, sorry, that was a Zombie Run.
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:LYSK?
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:@Pundawan Coming soon, for now enjoy the interview! Find out more about RPG Research: http://rpgresearch.com
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:13 minutes ago i think :P
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:@Polyteknix Lore You Should Know
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:Ok thank you :)
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:Just getting home from work....Soo looking forward to watching this from the beginning.
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:Isn't that already over?
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:@Gigsnz Is it the designers den?
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:@Polyteknix Lore is coming up shortly
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:@Slit_518 that's the one!
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:I really like that concept of having life skills learned through roleplay
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:Lore coming after interview
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:Oh cool. Thought it'd be earlier in the show. I came in late today
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:This interview is amazing, thank you @dnd for bringing it to us!
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:After-school programs should have tabletop roleplaying
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:Hello Greg and shelly
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:I agree, this interview has been very fulfilling
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:Thanks, Greg!
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:@digital_spell I agree!
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:I want to work as a therapist, and I've never considered that I can use my skills in dnd for therapy
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:Interview has been amazing
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:When I was a little child, we still have radio, no TV. You -HAD- to develop imagination, picture things. Today people realyy have lost that ability and I think RPG should be required studies.
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:Water" LOL
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:aw3som3 stuff again @dnd , @gregtito , shelly & @oboecrazy <3 dndAmp
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:i recommended it to my school @digital_spell but they denied it.

 

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      :i recommended it to my school @digital_spell but they denied it.
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:First time I've watched Dragon talk live...watched all of it on YouTube before
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:Find out more about RPG Research: http://rpgresearch.com including the trailer!
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:@mewfantasy aw, well they can't stop you from *guiding* a charismatic kid to a Player's Handbook mwuaahhaha
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:@MtnMama1 Different times too, when I was a kid we had tv, but we got outside, played with figures etc.. Was still a ton of imagination involved.. Agreed it should basically be a course they take if only to teach the life and social skills they learn through it.
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:Thanks for the re-sub @Ms_Misery !
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:@gregtito and Shelly, thank you for having this interview! dndNat20 dndAmp
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:YEAH @Ms_Misery <3
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:@dnd these guys aught to talk to Special Effect here in the UK, there may be some crossover of interests
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:@mewfantasy Try talking to your local library! Libraries tend to be pretty open about setting up after school programs like that...it brings people into the library! :D
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:Ohh that's where I know John's name from, the old LC/RC programme
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:@Cybearian I just tweeted them about them :)
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:@SpaceJunkz SE are good people
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:@jerhoc id have to look into it
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:Just wanted to let John and Hawke know that they are great!
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:they might
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:It would be called Roll the Dice
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:@Cybearian they're amazing. How'd you get to know them?
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:@mewfantasy Good luck! :D I volunteered as a DM for a year and a half at a local library, and we were often in need of even more DMs!
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:dndBlametito dndBlametito dndBlametito HR
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:thanks John n Hawke too , luv ur work !
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:Wow
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:That was SO MUCH AWESOME
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:@SpaceJunkz Im one of the Elite Dangerous community ambassadors and Frontier Developments do a lot of fund raising for SE. Ive met Barry and some of the other folks at the charity.
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:Gah, what'd I miss?!
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:Awesome show!
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:Great interview!
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:Stick around for Lore You Should Know with Chris Perkins!
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:Will this get posted on YouTube (in addition to the podcast?) I need to send this to my sister...
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:Great show!
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:@RonTheRBDM Should be on YouTube sometime tomorrow
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:@jerhoc wow, that must have been a lot of people. must have been fun tho
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:@RonTheRBDM The VoD on Twitch becomes available right away as well if that helps!
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:thanks John
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:dndMiloScold dndPerkins dndMiloJudge dndBoo dndMiloKiss
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:Blood war.. wonder if they'll talk about Chaos Ships! Or Zariel?!
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:@Cybearian Ah! I might have met you at some point! LOVE BARRY! He's an amazing guy! Went to a few events with him that had the ED people there! My name is Georgina! But it was so long ago, if we met it might have been very briefly
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:Thanks, guys!
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:Thank you @dnd ! @OboeCrazy I don't think my sister even knows what Twitch is... lol
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:@mewfantasy Tons of fun! I would still be doing it if working my "grown up job" didn't interfere. ;)
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:Good times everyone!
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:Hey @PowerScoreRPG :)

 

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:This is an idle game on Steam, with a D&D theme http://store.steampowered.com/app/627690/Idle_Champions_of_the_Forgotten_Realms/
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:Hi @AkeishaRoberts !
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:@AkeishaRoberts dndGrnFlame03
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:Great job representing the 509 John! Hope to see you on the gaming bus, with both of us living in the greater Spokane area. Or at least @ the Valley mall on Wednesday for gaming @ Uncle's games there. Woot! Woot!
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:@SpaceJunkz if you've spoken to a large yorkshireman then yes, we have met in past lol
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:Going to donate now at Gofundme

 

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:@rob2e Awesome work!
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:@Cybearian <3 kin <3
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:awwwwwwwww :)
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:Green Dragons breathe whatever-the-heck we want them to breathe!
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:well , will catch you all later , stay groovy!
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:Maybe they breathe rainbows
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:@archie_opteryx Have a good one!
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:Have to run! See everyone later!!!
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:@RonTheRBDM Run safe! ;)
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:Cthulu?
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:Is that Avalon Hill?
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:See you @RonTheRBDM
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:dndNat20 dndNat1 dndGrnFlame02
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:Wooo!
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:dndNat1 dndNat1 dndNat1
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:Sound engineers love Tito Kappa
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:great Dragon Talk tito !
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:indeed
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:hahaha @dnd
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:@dnd I like that you managed to lower the volume JUST at the right time!
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:dndBehLeft dndBehCenter dndBehRight
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:Fantastic topic! Thank you for what you are doing!
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:Great interview
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:Thanks everyone! That was awesome!
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:dndPerkins dndMiloKiss dndMiloPerkins
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:Lore I should know!
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